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Hi all I have asked this question in another forum and seem to get no where with it. I am using Plogue Bidule. I am by no means an expert at this so please be specific with your answers. I appreciate all help in this matter. I am trying to use a particular bidule by the name of QSLCR. I seem to have some components not showing properly however (in red). Below is a screen shot. I have rescanned the plugins and the dll files for the two missing voxengo compnents are in my plugins folder. I can open them from a right click and go to VST's. As for the missing components on the right hand side i am not even sure what they are. I dont seem to have them in any folder (a group possibly..but a group of what?) Once again if anyone has an answer to this i would truly appreciate it.

I just realized that you seem to be running Windows 64bit. If you installed the 64bit version of Plogue Bidule, it may very well have problems seeing what are essentially 32bit Voxengo plugins. On this forum here, we recommend not to install Plogue 64bit and to stick with Plogue 32bit because many plugins will not run with the former.

Thanks for the great input guys. I am running 64 bit windows 7 but i am using the 32 bit plogue. everything else seems to be working fine. Just this bidule and a couple others that have similar components. I will let you know what happens.

And the 64 bits part, was not mentioned on the other forum, which made us search and search and (of course) couldn't find an answer......

Ok just so we are clear. I am running Windows 7 64 bit. However, everything pertaining to plogue including the vst's are all 32 bit. This setup works fine with about 95% of the bidules i am using. I am not quite sure why PHA-979 and MSED wont show in this bidule since i can open them on a blank screen and they work. I can add a sound mapper to a 2 channel player with either of these and i get sound and i can adjust the sound with the 2 vst's. The path for these is as follows
C:\Program Files(x86)\Plogue\Bidule\VSTPlugins\Voxengo\PHA-79\PHA-979.dll
C:\Program Files(x86)\Plogue\Bidule\VSTPlugins\Voxengo\MSED\MSED.dll
I did look at the groups as suggested and it was as you said the 2 voxengo vst's are the problem but I for one can not figure out why when they work as standalones. Again I appreciate the time and comments.

The problem is resolved. I did replace the vst's both in the groups as well as on the side.