SurroundByUs.com

A Stereo-to-Surround Community
It is currently Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:38 am
  • No posting regarding file sharing of copyrighted material is allowed
  • AudioMuxer is here
  • Spec and SpecWeb are here
 

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Forum rules


The tools and techniques described and provided on this forum are intended for use on material owned by users and for their personal use as covered by "fair use" and other applicable copyright laws. The owners and moderators of this forum do not suggest or condone any violation of copyright or other applicable laws. Any use of these methods outside this forum in a manner which violates "fair use" or copyright is done so at the individual's own peril and is not the responsibility of surroundbyus.com.



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:04 pm 
Offline
Surround Fan

Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:12 pm
Posts: 7
Location: Toronto, Canada
Hi,

I have been burning DTS CDs using Imgburn without a problem until recently, and now all the discs I burn only play as stereo on my SONY BDP-S370 Blu-Ray Disc/DVD Player, even though they definitely come from DTS 6-channel audio .wav files, as verified by the MediaInfo program, and these files seem no different than other DTS .wav files I have successfully burned to CD (and those discs still play as DTS through my player and system).. playing these files in my computer only produces white noise (which is what I would expect).. so why do they now only play as stereo in my SONY player, not DTS, when I burn them?

Any help would be appreciated!


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:36 pm 
Offline
SBU Wiki Team
User avatar

Joined: Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:01 am
Posts: 656
IT sounds like the problem is your player, not the discs.

Somehow your player got set to mixdown to stereo?

The only other explanation would be if the DTS contained only stereo info, instead of 5.1.

You can use foobar2000 and a dts plugin to playback dts cds (or at least that there ARE six channels) on your pc.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:00 pm 
Offline
Surround Fan

Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:12 pm
Posts: 7
Location: Toronto, Canada
I just don't understand why my player is still able to play DTS discs I burned earlier, just not anymore..


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:36 pm 
Offline
SBU Wiki Team
User avatar

Joined: Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:01 am
Posts: 656
Oh? I didn't catch that detail. That is confusing.

discs you burned earlier currently play in 5.1, but discs you burned more recently currently play in stereo (even though you "know" they have 5.1 on them)?

I'd still recommend a way to test on another "player", like foobar2000 with the dts plugin on your pc.

Oh, you could also use audiomuxer to extract the audio and verify that it is in fact 5.1. If you extract to mono files then even if you don't have 5.1 playback you could listen to each channel to verify there's audio in there.

There's a link to audiomuxer in the yellow box at the top left of every page on this forum.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:47 pm 
Offline
Surround Fan

Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:12 pm
Posts: 7
Location: Toronto, Canada
This is what Media Info says about the first file (the other 13 files are the same, just different lengths and file sizes):

General
Complete name : F:\File 1.wav
Format : Wave
File size : 55.0 MiB
Duration : 5mn 26s
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 1 411 Kbps

Audio
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Mode : 14
Format settings, Endianness : Little
Codec ID : 1
Duration : 5mn 26s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 411.2 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 55.0 MiB (100%)


Here are the cue and ImgBurn log files for a burn session that produced a regular stereo audio CD from .wav files with a 6-channel DTS stream. Any idea why ImgBurn is now converting DTS.wav files to regular .cda CD audio files (even though it only recently started to do this, and I have lots of perfectly good DTS CDs produced the same way that play in beautiful 6-channel surround)? Do I all of a sudden need a special plugin for burning 6-channel DTS .wav files?

Cue file:

FILE "F:\File 1.wav" WAVE
REM FILE-DECODED-SIZE 05:26:54
TRACK 01 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "F:\File 2.wav" WAVE
REM FILE-DECODED-SIZE 02:42:07
TRACK 02 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "F:\File 3.wav" WAVE
REM FILE-DECODED-SIZE 01:54:37
TRACK 03 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "F:\File 4.wav" WAVE
REM FILE-DECODED-SIZE 03:55:11
TRACK 04 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "F:\File 5.wav" WAVE
REM FILE-DECODED-SIZE 02:22:69
TRACK 05 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "F:\File 6.wav" WAVE
REM FILE-DECODED-SIZE 05:13:31
TRACK 06 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "F:\File 7.wav" WAVE
REM FILE-DECODED-SIZE 02:25:02
TRACK 07 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "F:\File 8.wav" WAVE
REM FILE-DECODED-SIZE 03:12:09
TRACK 08 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "F:\File 9.wav" WAVE
REM FILE-DECODED-SIZE 03:51:72
TRACK 09 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "F:\File 10.wav" WAVE
REM FILE-DECODED-SIZE 04:34:74
TRACK 10 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "F:\File 11.wav" WAVE
REM FILE-DECODED-SIZE 01:53:09
TRACK 11 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "F:\File 12.wav" WAVE
REM FILE-DECODED-SIZE 05:30:64
TRACK 12 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "F:\File 13.wav" WAVE
REM FILE-DECODED-SIZE 03:41:21
TRACK 13 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "F:\File 14.wav" WAVE
REM FILE-DECODED-SIZE 05:50:18
TRACK 14 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00


ImgBurn log file:

I 20:11:29 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started!
I 20:11:29 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)
I 20:11:29 Total Physical Memory: 4,088,976 KiB - Available: 1,925,168 KiB
I 20:11:29 Initialising SPTI...
I 20:11:29 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 20:11:29 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 1.00-06 (D:) (ATAPI)
I 20:11:29 Found 1 BD-RE!
I 20:13:54 Operation Started!
I 20:13:54 Source File: F:\File.cue
I 20:13:54 Source File Sectors: 236,578 (AUDIO/2352)
I 20:13:54 Source File Size: 556,431,456 bytes
I 20:13:54 Source File File System(s): None
I 20:13:54 Destination Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 1.00 (D:) (ATAPI)
I 20:13:54 Destination Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m26s66f, CMC Magnetics Corp.)
I 20:13:54 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 24x, 32x, 40x
I 20:13:54 Destination Media Sectors: 359,844
I 20:13:54 Write Mode: CD
I 20:13:54 Write Type: SAO
I 20:13:54 Write Speed: 24x
I 20:13:54 Lock Volume: Yes
I 20:13:54 Test Mode: No
I 20:13:54 OPC: No
I 20:13:54 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 20:13:54 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 4,234 KB/s (24x)
I 20:13:55 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB)
I 20:14:06 Writing LeadIn...
I 20:14:21 Writing Session 1 of 1... (14 Tracks, LBA: 0 - 236577)
I 20:14:21 Writing Track 1 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 0 - 24503)
I 20:14:35 Writing Track 2 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 24504 - 36660)
I 20:14:42 Writing Track 3 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 36661 - 45247)
I 20:14:47 Writing Track 4 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 45248 - 62883)
I 20:14:57 Writing Track 5 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 62884 - 73602)
I 20:15:03 Writing Track 6 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 73603 - 97108)
I 20:15:16 Writing Track 7 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 97109 - 107985)
I 20:15:22 Writing Track 8 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 107986 - 122394)
I 20:15:30 Writing Track 9 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 122395 - 139791)
I 20:15:39 Writing Track 10 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 139792 - 160415)
I 20:15:51 Writing Track 11 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 160416 - 168899)
I 20:15:56 Writing Track 12 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 168900 - 193713)
I 20:16:09 Writing Track 13 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 193714 - 210309)
I 20:16:19 Writing Track 14 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 210310 - 236577)
I 20:16:33 Synchronising Cache...
I 20:16:39 Exporting Graph Data...
I 20:16:39 Graph Data File: C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_BD-RE_BH10LS30_1.00_MONDAY-AUGUST-31-2015_8-13_PM_97m26s66f_24x.ibg
I 20:16:39 Export Successfully Completed!
I 20:16:39 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:02:45
I 20:16:39 Average Write Rate: 4,116 KiB/s (20.8x) - Maximum Write Rate: 4,193 KiB/s (21.2x)
I 20:16:39 Cycling Tray before Verify...
W 20:16:49 Waiting for device to become ready...
I 20:16:56 Device Ready!
I 20:16:58 Operation Started!
I 20:16:58 Source Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 1.00 (D:) (ATAPI)
I 20:16:58 Source Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m26s66f, CMC Magnetics Corp.)
I 20:16:58 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 10x, 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x
I 20:16:58 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 24x, 32x, 40x
I 20:16:58 Source Media Sectors: 236,578
I 20:16:58 Source Media Size: 556,431,456 bytes
I 20:16:58 Image File: F:\File.cue
I 20:16:58 Image File Sectors: 236,578 (AUDIO/2352)
I 20:16:58 Image File Size: 556,431,456 bytes
I 20:16:58 Image File File System(s): None
I 20:16:58 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX
I 20:17:01 Read Speed - Effective: 40x
I 20:17:01 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (14 Tracks, LBA: 0 - 236577)
I 20:17:01 Verifying Track 1 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 0 - 24503)
I 20:17:26 Verifying Track 2 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 24504 - 36660)
I 20:17:34 Verifying Track 3 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 36661 - 45247)
I 20:17:39 Verifying Track 4 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 45248 - 62883)
I 20:17:49 Verifying Track 5 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 62884 - 73602)
I 20:17:55 Verifying Track 6 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 73603 - 97108)
I 20:18:08 Verifying Track 7 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 97109 - 107985)
I 20:18:13 Verifying Track 8 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 107986 - 122394)
I 20:18:20 Verifying Track 9 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 122395 - 139791)
I 20:18:29 Verifying Track 10 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 139792 - 160415)
I 20:18:38 Verifying Track 11 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 160416 - 168899)
I 20:18:42 Verifying Track 12 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 168900 - 193713)
I 20:18:52 Verifying Track 13 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 193714 - 210309)
I 20:18:59 Verifying Track 14 of 14... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 210310 - 236577)
I 20:19:10 Exporting Graph Data...
I 20:19:10 Graph Data File: C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_BD-RE_BH10LS30_1.00_MONDAY-AUGUST-31-2015_8-13_PM_97m26s66f_24x.ibg
I 20:19:10 Export Successfully Completed!
I 20:19:10 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:02:10
I 20:19:10 Average Verify Rate: 4,278 KiB/s (21.6x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 5,941 KiB/s (30.0x)

Despite the fact the original files only play as white noise through the computer, the result of this burn is a regular stereo audio CD, no matter what I play it in (my SONY BDP-370 player or my Windows 7 computer using Winamp or Windows Media Player).

Any help with this would be appreciated!


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:53 pm 
Offline
Surround Fan

Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:12 pm
Posts: 7
Location: Toronto, Canada
Zeerround wrote:
discs you burned earlier currently play in 5.1, but discs you burned more recently currently play in stereo (even though you "know" they have 5.1 on them)?
Correct.
Zeerround wrote:
I'd still recommend a way to test on another "player", like foobar2000 with the dts plugin on your pc.

When I load that file into Foobar2000, it says it's a PCM codec 2-channel (?) .wav file with a 1411 kbps bit-rate - even though MediaInfo says it's a 6-channel DTS stream - and plays in Foobar2000 as white noise, not music - so somehow the DTS .wav file was converted into a regular stereo audio CD during the burn process... how I don't know.
Zeerround wrote:
Oh, you could also use audiomuxer to extract the audio and verify that it is in fact 5.1. If you extract to mono files then even if you don't have 5.1 playback you could listen to each channel to verify there's audio in there.

There's a link to audiomuxer in the yellow box at the top left of every page on this forum.
I'll try that next, and very much appreciate the suggestion and all the advice!


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:16 pm 
Offline
Surround Fan

Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:12 pm
Posts: 7
Location: Toronto, Canada
Zeerround wrote:
Oh, you could also use audiomuxer to extract the audio and verify that it is in fact 5.1. If you extract to mono files then even if you don't have 5.1 playback you could listen to each channel to verify there's audio in there.

There's a link to audiomuxer in the yellow box at the top left of every page on this forum.
OK, I first tried putting the first file in the left window of Audiomuxer, and tried to Mux it to MKV, while exporting to WAV. Here is the log from that session:

Quote:
*** \Eac3to\log.txt -- 8/31/2015 9:08:04 PM

eac3to v3.27
command line: "eac3to.exe" "F:\Output.mkv" 2:"F:\Output.wav" -progressnumbers
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MKV, 1 video track, 1 audio track, 1 subtitle track, 0:05:27, 24p /1.001
1: h264/AVC, English, 720p24 /1.001 (16:9)
2: DTS, English, 5.1 channels, 1235kbps, 44.1kHz
3: Subtitle (SRT), English
[a02] The ArcSoft and Sonic decoders don't seem to work, will use libav instead.
[a02] Extracting audio track number 2...
[a02] Decoding with libav/ffmpeg...
[a02] Reducing depth from 64 to 24 bits...
[a02] Writing WAV...
[a02] Creating file "F:\Output.wav"...
Video track 1 contains 7848 frames.
eac3to processing took 14 seconds.
Done.
Interestingly the much larger "Output.wav" file (over 6 times the size of File 1.wav) is read by dbpoweramp as 6-channel, whereas it reads the original File 1.wav file as 2-channel. Is this the file (and the 13 others following it) that I need to burn to disc (obviously a DVD, not a CD, given the file sizes)?

I also tried separating File 1.wav into 6 mono files, as you suggested - here's what Audiomuxer made of that:

Quote:
==> F:\File 1.fixed.wav
> DTS | 44100Hz | 1 411.2 Kbps | 6Ch (3/2/0.1)

> Created from "F:\File 1.wav"
since the DTSWav file was corrupted.

> Eac3to LOG -->
eac3to v3.27
command line: "eac3to.exe" "F:\File 1.fixed.wav" "F:\File 1.wavs" -progressnumbers
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DTSWAV, 5.1 channels, 0:05:25, 24 bits, 1235kbps, 44.1kHz
The ArcSoft and Sonic decoders don't seem to work, will use libav instead.
Reading DTSWAV...
Decoding with libav/ffmpeg...
Reducing depth from 64 to 24 bits...
Writing WAVs...
Creating file "F:\File 1.fixed.C.wav"...
Creating file "F:\File 1.fixed.R.wav"...
Creating file "F:\File 1.fixed.L.wav"...
Creating file "F:\File 1.SR.wav"...
Creating file "F:\File 1.fixed.LFE.wav"...
Creating file "F:\File 1.SL.wav"...
eac3to processing took 16 seconds.
Done.

> F:\File 1.fixed.wavs mono-wavs created
So it appears the original DTS file(s) is/are indeed 6-channel but were corrupted.

Does it then make sense I should try to create a cue sheet for "F:\File 1.fixed.wav" (and the other 13 fixed files) and then try and burn *them* to CD? Or should I use the larger "F:\Output.wav" for each of the files, and burn those to DVD?


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:14 pm 
Offline
Surround Fan

Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:12 pm
Posts: 7
Location: Toronto, Canada
And to add even more mystery to this, I tried re-burning a DTS .wav file I had already successfully burned to CD - and which played in 6-channel surround - and now it only plays in stereo (even though the first disc still plays as DTS).. so it's not (or not just) a file corruption issue, something has changed in the way ImgBurn is burning these files to CD, I just wish I could figure out what it was.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:28 pm 
Offline
Surround Fan

Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:12 pm
Posts: 7
Location: Toronto, Canada
I tried using another program to burn the DTS files in question, PowerISO, and the disc plays fine, so there must be some problem with my ImgBurn setup which results in DTS files being converted to regular audio CD files.. will uninstall, reboot and reinstall and see if that fixes the problem.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:25 am 
Offline
SBU Wiki Team
User avatar

Joined: Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:01 am
Posts: 656
I always use a cue file.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

Protected by Anti-Spam ACP POWERED_BY